How do you recommend NS bidding this hand below?
EW vulnerable, West is dealer:
North ♠AKJ2 ♥J8742 ♦AJ ♣Q6 |
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West ♠9863 ♥AK6 ♦KT92 ♣A9 |
East ♠75 ♥T953 ♦Q84 ♣J532 |
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South ♠QT4 ♥Q ♦7653 ♣KT874 |
N | E | S | W | |
1♦ | ||||
??? |
Heidi's Answer: Options
What a brutal hand North has to bid! WOW!I really have no idea what the best bid is -- or even if there is a really good bid.
I can see several options. Here they are:
North can overcall 1♥. This shows a good five card suit. Is North's suit good enough?
North can overcall 1♠. This shows a good five card suit. They only have a four card suit but isn't their four card suit better than their five card suit?
North can overcall 1NT. This shows a balanced hand with 15 to 18 HCP and a ♦ stopper. The hand is a little unbalanced and the stopper isn't great...
North can Double. This would be a Take Out Double asking Partner to bid their LONGEST suit. With only a doubleton ♣ club what will this hand do if (when) Partner bids 2♣?
North can bid 2♦ which is a convention called "Michael's" saying (in this auction) Partner I have five cards in both majors. But this hand only has four ♠...
North can just "Pass" and see what happens. Maybe they can come in again later. But with 16 HCP does one really want to "Pass"?
Heidi's Answer: Auctions with Different Options
Option 1: Overcalling 1♥
East will certainly "Pass".
South has nothing to say and will also "Pass".
Back to West who will also "Pass".
North will play in 1♥.
N | E | S | W |
1♦ | |||
1♥ | Pass | Pass | Pass |
Option 2: Overcalling 1♠
East will certainly "Pass".
South can raise their Partner to 2♠ to show about 6 to 10 points and at least three ♠.
The auction will end there. I don't think North will bid anymore since they don't have a five card suit!
North will play in 2♠.
N | E | S | W |
1♦ | |||
1♠ | Pass | 2♠ | Pass |
Pass | Pass |
Option 3: Overcalling 1NT
The auction will end there. I don't think anyone will have anything to say after that.
North will play in 1NT.
N | E | S | W |
1♦ | |||
1NT | Pass | Pass | Pass |
Option 4: Double and "Pass" what Partner bids
Over a Double South will be forced to say their LONGEST SUIT. This will be ♣. What will North now do? In this scenario they will "Pass" The auction will end there. I don't think anyone will have anything to say after that.
South will play in 2♣.
N | E | S | W |
1♦ | |||
Double | Pass | 2♣ | Pass |
Pass | Pass |
Option 5: Double and bid 2♥ if Partner bids 2♣
Over a Double South will be forced to say their LONGEST SUIT. This will be ♣. What will North now do? In this scenario they will bid 2♥. This shows a hand that was TOO STRONG to just overcall 1♥.
(I do not like this auction AT ALL. You should have a MUCH BETTER suit to make this bid!)
However the auction will end there. I don't think anyone will have anything to say after that.
North will play in 2♥.
N | E | S | W |
1♦ | |||
Double | Pass | 2♣ | Pass |
2♥ | Pass | Pass | Pass |
Option 6: Bidding 2♦ (Michaels)
North is showing at least 5-5 in both majors and asking South which major they prefer. South will prefer ♠. The auction will end there. I don't think anyone will have anything to say after that.
South will play in 2♠.
N | E | S | W |
1♦ | |||
2♦ | Pass | 2♠ | Pass |
Pass | Pass |
Option 7: Pass
The auction will end there. I don't think anyone will have anything to say after that.
West will play in 1♦.
N | E | S | W |
1♦ | |||
Pass | Pass | Pass |
Heidi's Answer: Choices
There is no clear cut "good" bid on this hand.My choice would probably be to overcall 1NT. I don't mind bidding 1NT with a 5-4-2-2 hand and I don't like Doubling with only an outside two card suit. That tends to be the one Partner ALWAYS picks.
But this hand was so EXTREMELY horrific I decided to ask a bridge group that I am involved in to see what they would bid.
Here are some of their choices of what they would bid and why:
Ottawa Expert #1
I would Double. Worst case is pard bids 2♣. If this happens, I think you are strong enough to bid 2♥. Pard should realize you are looking for the majors and with any luck, you’ll hear her 4-card suit and find a fit.Ottawa Expert #2
I would bid 1NT - if pard transfers or staymans all is good. If pard passes, it might even make. Even if we go down it might be a good “sac”.Ottawa Expert #3
I would Double as pard should expect that one is looking for a major suit. If clubs bid I would pass as pard probably has at least 5 clubs. Double also allows pard to bid 1NT with diamonds expecting pard to have majors. 1NT would be second choice but it may very well be passed out. 1♥ is not appealing with such a poor suit.Ottawa Expert #4
I think you have to bid something. If you pass and there's a preemptive 3 diamonds passed back to you are you going to now double back in?I think 1NT is best as it allows pard to make an informed decision should your LHO take any action. You might even have a game !!
Ottawa Expert #5
I guess the first question you are asking is should you bid? With 16 high card points it is a definite yes! So, if you are going to bid, what should it be? With 5, 4, 2, 2 I would reject 1NT. I could overcall 1♥, but I may be stumped for a second bid. I would select 2♦, Michaels. Yes, it should be 5-5, but if you wait for the perfect hand every time you would frequently not be bidding. Besides, the 4 card suit is pretty good. Even if pard has just 3 spades and you end up playing there, it is still ok. Sometimes you have to lie a bit, and I think the smallest lie here is 2♦.Ottawa Expert #6
When White I overcall 4-card suits with my partner all the time so 1♠ wouldn't be terrible but I prefer length to strength and the AK will take tricks regardless ( A concept another player calls "Ins and Outs"). If LHO passes you might hear 1♠ from partner. If LHO passes and partner passes you aren't missing anything. If LHO bids 2♦ partner might show heart support or bid showing spades.Also, is a rebid of 2♠ by you a reverse (Overcaller reverses?)? If not then the following auction is playable. You can't leave them in 2♦
(1♦)-1♥-(2♦)-p
(p)-2♠
You don't really want a heart lead agaisnt a suit contract but as Mike Lawrence says, partner needs to be on lead for that to be a problem.
Pass is too timid for my taste. What is your next bid if you pass and LHO bids 3♦?
(1♦)-p-(3♦)-p
(p)-?
Ottawa Expert #7
Of the 4 reasonable options, I would not Double (only 2 clubs), or bid 1♠ (4 card suit) I think both 1♥ and 1NT are very reasonable bids, and either one would be acceptable.Ottawa Expert #8
My preference is to double for takeout.Why - the least of all evils.
If partner bids 2♣ they will often have a 5 card suit since they should always try to bid a major
If they bid a major, I will raise. It should show around 15-16 HCP
Why not other bids:
1. 1NT - with a minimum I prefer at least 1.5 tricks in their suit
2. 1♥ - as you said, a lousy suit and you may lose a ♠ fit
3. 1♠ - a very good suit but now you'll never find the ♥ fit if you have one
4. Pass - cowardice
Ottawa Expert #9
I agree with Ottawa Expert #8. You have a values showing double and to pass is cowardice!!Ottawa Expert #10
You are right Heidi, this is a brutal hand. I think, like Ottawa Expert #8, I'd Double. You risk missing a 5-3 heart fit but bring in the possibility of a 4 4 spade fit. If, unfortunately, pard has a yarborough with 5 diamonds, hopefully he doesn't have 4 clubs and will bid his 3 card major (which brings the possibility of playing in our 8 card heart fit😁). Maybe my LHO will rescue us by bidding over my double.Ottawa Expert #11
I love 5 card suits. I would bid 1♥.Ottawa Expert #12
I like 1NT. It shows your point count and that you have a stopper in the opener's suit. And I'd keep my fingers crossed that Pard has enough points for Stayman.Ottawa Expert #13
I like 1NT. It is a reasonably valid description of your hand (I would open 1NT in 1st seat). If partner has something in a major you may hear about it and end up in the right major suit strain. You only need a partial diamond stopper from partner to have them double stopped.Ottawa Expert #14
To me there are two best bids available; it depends on your style which one you choose.Bid #1: 2♦ Michaels...your 4 card ♠ suit is strong enough to be considered a 5 bagger. Since your partner has not bid, even a game is possible. Playing a Moysian fit in ♠'s is OK too since you have good hand strength.
Bid #2: 1NT shows a 15-18HCP overcall. Since you do not have 5♠, your ♥ suit suit is mediocre and you have a ♥ stopper it tells your partner what your high card strength is and that you have a diamond stopper. With systems on, several different contracts can be reached.
In either case your hand is behind the opening bidder.
Having said all that, my personal preference is Bid #2 since it passes captaincy to your partner and allows your unpassed partner more choice and more information on which to base a decision.
Ottawa Expert #15
I like 1NT as well. Point count is right, and you have a diamond stopper, although I would like it better if I had AJx. If partner bids Stayman, you are away to the races. If partner passes or raises NT, you should still be okay.Ottawa Expert #16
I would, personally, double: I have more than an average opener and reasonable rebids. Between us, opener and I have at least 29 HCP (West surely will have a “real” opener, so on average, pard has about 5 HCP; on that measure, we’re even strength or better). We can probably make any 2 level bid or at most down 1. I’m prepared to bid 2♥ over 2♣ by partner and passing ops, can pass any one-level major and raise any two level major [showing 8+] to three (inviting). I can also risk leaving in a 1NT response. Against that, Opponents may well be able to make one or even 2♦ with about even HCP. Therefore, it’s either -70/-90 if I don’t bid vs. -50/+90/+110/=140 if I do. Probably.Yes, there are days when we wind up on the short end at even worse scores – or make games we don’t bid.
Life isn’t perfect. It’s a competitive game.
Ottawa Expert #17
Jerry Helms argues for finding the least bad bid when no option fits perfectly. Between the choices of Double, 1Major, 1NT, or Michaels, I would choose 2♦ and let the blame fly!!Ottawa Expert #18
I would bid 1NT. It is not perfect but I believe that it better describes my hand than the other options.Ottawa Expert #19
Double. If Partner bids 2♣ I'll just "Pass".Ottawa Expert #20
Double.Ottawa Expert #21
Double.Ottawa Expert #21
When on my own in such situations - I seek balance between two thoughts - stay flexible; make the smallest lieIn this case I would consider 1♥,1♠ and 1NT as too unilateral - and I'd mis-sort a ♥ into the ♣ suit and Double.
(Heidi's note: Ha Ha! Hard to do the mis-sorting now that we are online and he's giving away all my secrets!)
I think people who 2-suit with 5-4 should be forced to play euchre
(Heidi's note: You can tell us bridge players are snobs...)
RESULT???
Just what is the best contract?Double Dummy:
N/S can make 2♣ (for 90 points), 2♠ (for 110 points), 1NT (for 90 points) and 1♥ (for 80 points)
E/W will go down 1 trick in 1♦ (to give N/S 100 points)
If N/S get any higher than those levels above they will have to give E/W 50 points for every trick they go down.
So that means (if you want to result):
Bidding either 1♠ or 2♦ (Michaels) give you the best overall result.
Passing turns out to give you the NEXT best result.
Bidding either 1NT or Double gives the next best result.
Finally Doubling and Bidding 2♥ gives the worst result. Which out of all the bids was the one I truely disliked.
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